Dave Canterbury announced last month that he's leaving Dual Survival in order to focus on other commitments. Cody Lundin will remain with the series but Canterbury's replacement has not yet been announced.A rumor originating from the Discovery Channel is that Canterbury will be replaced by someone with a Special Forces background. I'm wondering if it's going to be Mykel Hawke from the now defunct series Man, Woman Wild? It'll be interesting to find out. We wish Dave Canterbury the best and hope he finds happiness in his new endeavors.
July 12th, 2015 UPDATE- Dual Survival canceled by Discovery Channel
April 23rd, 2014 UPDATE- Rocky Mountain Bushcraft Exclusive: Discovery Channel responds to Cody Lundin being fired from Dual Survival
June 3rd, 2013 UPDATE!- Has "resume embellishment" returned to Dual Survival? Bloggers claim Joe Teti is not a combat veteran
January 3rd, 2013 UPDATE!- VIDEO: Dave Canterbury admits to accusations, apologizes
January 2nd, 2013 UPDATE- How did Joe Teti do in his first Dual Survival show?
December 31th, 2012 UPDATE- VIDEO: Cody Lundin talks about new Dual Survival partner Joe Teti (also gives additional insight into why Dave might have been fired)
November 30th, 2012 UPDATE- Dual Survival announces replacement for Dave Canterbury
July 25th, 2012 UPDATE- Cody Lundin has released an official response to Dave Canterbury's departure:
Prescott, June 13, 2012 - As has already been publicly confirmed, Dave Canterbury is no longer a part of Dual Survival. This fact has been true since September of 2011.
I have faced many questions regarding this change and much has been said on the Internet as well. Any inquiries regarding this matter should be directed to Discovery Channel. However, since I have no doubt that the questions will continue, and I have an ethical and professional responsibility to do so, I am making the following statement.
The goal of the survival instructor is to keep people alive. To accomplish this goal, honesty, integrity, trust and competence must come first. These core values cannot be compromised or people’s lives are needlessly put at risk. In a profession where human lives are at stake, dishonesty about ones background and experience is an inexcusable breach of trust.
I have dedicated my life to this profession. It is my passion and livelihood and I have spent the past 23 years developing expertise in it. I hold the responsibility of being a survival skills instructor as sacred. It is incumbent upon all of us in this field to insist that the highest standards of honesty, integrity and honor are maintained at all times.
For all of the aforementioned reasons, I am proud to work with my new Dual Survival partner as we take the show to even greater levels. This is my final statement on the matter at this time. To my fans and to those who have offered support during this very challenging time, I offer my greatest gratitude and thanks.
Cody Lundin
ALSO- Wikipedia, under the "Cast Changes" entry for Dual Survival, paints a less flattering picture, saying:
"In April 2012, Canterbury falsely announced that he would no longer be part of the series due to family and business reasons. In truth, in September of 2011, Canterbury was fired by Discovery for misrepresenting his military and civilian background and experience. http://www.codylundin.com/wordpress/cody-lundin-press-release/
Canterbury's false military claims can be seen on the POWnetwork.org website under their "phonies" section, letter "C". Canterbury also falsely claimed to have 20 years of survival skills experience which was proven untrue by the surfacing of Canterbury's own 2008 bio in which he was a factory worker at an auto plant in Ohio the year before he signed to be on Dual Survival. This bio can be viewed on BushcraftUSA."
This is a statement Dave made publicly a few years ago on his Bushcraft USA bio profile, but then took it down once he was confronted with evidence that contradicted his claims:
"I was in the US Army from 1981-1988, and during this time I served in Central America, Grenada, Korea and the US, much of the time as an instructor for both US Troops and some allied forces in several specialty areas. I graduated from Airborne, Air Assault, Ranger, and Sniper Counter Sniper Schools while serving my country."
I went to POWnetwork.org and viewed Dave's military service records. From what I can tell, he was an MP in the Army for 6 years who was trained as a military police sniper and an SRT member, which is like an Army version of SWAT. There is no mention of Ranger, Survival, Scout, or Airborne Training. There is also no mention of service in Grenada or Central America, only in Korea, where his title was "ID Badge Clerk."
Obviously, the Discovery Channel and Cody figured this out last year and had to make a hard decision, or else risk losing the integrity of the show. This is really sad to hear. Dave did serve his country, but decided to embellish things which got him into trouble.
The moral of the story is, make sure to update your Bushcraft USA bio before becoming a famous TV survival show star!
Just kidding......It's always best to stay honest and keep it real.
Cheers,
Jason
About the author
Jason Schwartz is the founder and senior editor of Rocky Mountain Bushcraft. He is a former Red Cross certified Wilderness & Remote First Aid Instructor, and has taught bushcraft and wilderness survival techniques to the Boy Scouts of America, interned with the US Forest Service, and studied wilderness survival, forestry and wildland firefighting at Colorado Mountain College in Leadville, Colorado. Jason has also written for magazines such as The New Pioneer and Backpacker, including writing the "Tinder Finder" portion of Backpacker's "Complete Guide to Fire," which won a 2015 National Magazine Award (NMA). Email him at rockymountainbushcraft @ hotmail.com (without spaces)
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ReplyDeleteSorry :(
DeleteI am not so sure that the concern over this mans background are justified. A special ops soldiers record is often listed as a basic possition. You won't find a list of names of the seal teams. You may actually find them listed as a cook or mp.
DeleteSo I'd reconsider this concern.
The new SOG guy isn't the one with the falsified records. Dave Canturbury the old costar is the one who lies about his military background.
DeleteThw SOG guy isn't the one with the falsified background, Dave Canterbury is the one who made up lies about his service and he was never SF, he claimed he was a ranger and a sniper but his records show no ranger or sniper school, but the new guy is SF, not the old guy.
DeleteThe whole show is bull but I'll still watch the show. I enjoy it more when I am high
Deleteits not Mykel Hawk... Sara Desalme who is Codys girlfriend if i'm reading it correctly has said so.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the update.
DeleteI think cable channels are going through major budget cuts. I noticed they go out for shorter trips. Bizzare Food only visited in America this year, I think they had no foreign travel budget. Nothing against Cody, but I thought Dave was the star.
ReplyDeleteI think cable channels are going through major budget cuts. I noticed they go out for shorter trips. Bizzare Food only visited in America this year, I think they had no foreign travel budget. Nothing against Cody, but I thought Dave was the star.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment Mike. Lots of TV shows seem to be hurting right now, though I don't believe this is why Canterbury left. There are several rumors as to why he left, but let's just hope that the show finds a suitable replacement and continues as it did before.
DeleteCheers, Jason
My family is beyond bummed at all the survival show cancellations, and the only "surviving" show of the bunch just lost a key component. I hope they find someone as entertaining, and not only that, but someone who can give as sharp a contrast as Dave was to Cody. I am going to miss my family's favorite shows, my 4 year old prefers them to most cartoons!
ReplyDeleteSorry Claremomof2 :( Yes, Dave was entertaining with Cody and I'm sorry it all worked out the way it did.
DeleteJason
I like Dave and will continue to follow his you tube stuff. I hope he gets picked up again by another network soon.
ReplyDeleteThis will blow over and hopefully he will tell his story.
Reminds me of the Swiftboat ordeal with Senator Kerry. If someone wants to discredit you they will find a way to do it. Was a crime committed? No was it wrong yes. Wow Cody throws him right under the bus and then drives over him with those remarks. Some partner huh?
Come on it is a show for entertainment purposes. Although there are some good tips in there like carving a canoe out of a log with a machete.lol
No ones lives were at stake in the show, the two guys have a well stocked camera crew 10 feet away and a safety net should things go south...
Hey Cattledog-
DeleteThanks for the comment. I think what got Dave into most trouble was claiming to be a Ranger and using that title to promote himself and his business. I was checking out Dave's videos as far back as 2007/2008, and he did push the Ranger thing quite a bit.
Now, having served in the military and been friends with guys who went through Ranger school, having Ranger training does not make someone an instant wilderness survival expert. Rangers are mainly combat specialists. It's the Special Forces guys who get more of that type of training. So it never moved me when Dave used "Ranger" to promote himself.
I do have a problem with him being dishonest about it though. I don't think he should be crucified for it, but he did offer a falsified resume to get his paid job on Discovery, which then used that info to promote the early shows. This put his employer in a very tricky position with the audience, many of whom are probably veterans.
I do agree with him and others who say that real survival experts are self-made, so I feel that he might still have good info to offer. However, some might now question how much research and testing he puts into the survival skills he promotes because of his perceived lack of integrity. Obviously, this will be up to the individual to decide if they want to seek his advice and knowledge.
As for Kerry and "Swiftboating," I happen to agree, though I don't think it's the case with what's happened to Dave (based on what I mentioned). I don't think military veterans of any political persuasion should be attacked for their documented service, which Kerry originally was (to anyone reading this, please do not respond with political comments, let's stick with the subject of Dave please). Dave got in trouble for representing undocumented military service and titles, so I do understand Discovery's and Cody Lundin's position with having to maintain the show's integrity, which included letting Dave go.
Cheers,
Jason
Ok so he falsify info. Does his technics not work for survival, in order to survive you need to be flexible and think on your feet. Sorry discovery is bull. I like to think they fire him for lieing but then they lie them selfs by promoting breaking amish where theses people haven't been amish in awhile.
DeleteDave may not of lied. I know first hand that Joe blow can not go on the government website and find out what branches, what training, or areas served. A person would have to have his ID info. So for anyone other than Dave or a person who had that info to say that they looked and they found his info and it was false. They are the one who is false. Also persons who serve in special ops are not going to have that information out there for the public to find. Don't be so gullible.
Deletesorry... i find it really hard to believe that he is not a survival specialist.. dont you think discovery checks crudentials before hand? Even at that the dude obviously shows qualities of someone you would want to be with if you were standed. Hes a badass people. Get off his Dik
ReplyDeleteMatthew, please remember that this is just a press release. We have nothing to do Dave's fortune or misfortune. The only thing I pointed out was Dave's misrepresentation of his credentials, which never sits well with those who've served. Other than that, I have no problem with him.
DeleteI also want to add that there is no reason to use offensive language, so let's keep the conversation civil.
DeleteDave was so dam entertaining with his hunting and they should have given Ray mears the job . Because ray is a die hard bushcraft guy .
DeleteThought Dave and Cody were friends. Just another sad ending to once entertaining television. Good luck Dave and thanks for the survival education.
DeleteSad to see Dave go. I am curios how exactly he lied? What was his exact words? Apparently he has had sniper and ranger training and served in the military. So he is not lying about that stuff.
ReplyDeleteYou might want to reread the update. He never did go through Ranger training and never served in Central America. He stuck with this story on the forums until someone posted his military records, revealing that he had misrepresented his service.
DeleteSo Dave got caught lying! BIG DEAL who out there has not told a lie now and then, Hell Almost every word that came out of Obama's mouth was a lie, and we still have him, thats not fair. Dave was far more skilled in the real world than Cody except the desert. Maybe Cody knows more safety rules but definitely not survival skills. Just do some research and it will stick out like a sore thumb. Dave would keep you alive just compare him to that nit-wit Bear Grylls who did a lot of really stupid stuff for ratings. Many times in Bear's show I spotted mistakes that would get people killed if they did the same. I personally believe Cody got jealous of Dave and tried to complain about every thing he could think of. Just one example here where Cody built a water distillation still on the island, Ok Cody did real well with that but then showed exactly what I am talking about when Dave got a drop of salt water in his distilled water. If you are working in high heat you have to drink a lot of water and are advised to take a SALT tablet. So in reality you should add 5 to 10% salt water once in a while to replace your electrolytes. If Cody is such and expert why did he not know this and why if he did know why did he cry so much about it. Don't get me wrong about Cody though he is still a master of primitive fire that has to be respected.
ReplyDeleteTNjohn, we appreciate your comment, but let's keep the politics out of it. Regarding the lying part, I can't speak for the Discovery Channel, but misrepresenting a resume for a high profile job is usually a recipe for getting fired at any place of employment.
DeleteWhat about Man VS. Wild? Remember when they got caught staying in hotels, when they were supposed to be filming. They took it off awhile and then put it back on. I never understood that. They had survivorman(one of the few actual reality shows) and man vs wild. They don't care. I am guessing cody lundin said he would post something like he did above and they caved and fired him. I would like to see if dave had or has anything to say. After Cody released that statement.
DeleteI will not be watching this season... Everyone in their life has done something wrong in which they wish they can be forgiven! Not only me, but Dave is someone in that boat aswell! Dave knew his stuff, I will miss him dearly!!!!! Srew Discovery, watched that channel for many years... In the name of Dave, I will never tune in again! Huge mistake Discovery!!!!!
ReplyDeleteI have to say I never gave a crap about his military stuff, the military has nothing to do with survival. It is usually one 30 min class unless you are a pilot or socom or something of that nature. If your instructor says he has military experience I would find a new instructor, but that is just my 2 cents.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment P226nut. In general, I agree, though I did take a weekend wilderness survival course through the Army which was very informative and obviously longer than 30 mins in length. I guess it depends on your MOS, where you're stationed, etc. I would think that recon guys and Special Forces go through quite a bit. My dad was a Reconnaissance Commando (RECONDO) in Vietnam and he underwent quite a bit of wilderness\jungle survival training. Not sure about Rangers though. Maybe an ex-Ranger can leave a comment detailing the type of wilderness training they receive?
DeleteI am laughing so hard right now, or as the acronym goes, having a good lol.
ReplyDeleteI'm wondering why it would matter that Dave Canterbury wasn't a Ranger. As far as I remember the show always introduced(marketed) him has an Ex-military Army SRT member and/or trained sniper. Does not being a Ranger effect his proven 2 seasons worth of ability to provide competent survival instruction?
I guess we should listen to the crazy crystal wearing bush hippie who talks to his mitochondria and ties ribbons in his hair. No thanks. Leave the ego in Arizona.
I'll go with the humble family centered Christ loving guy. You can find him helping people learn survival skills on the internet "EVERYDAY" for free.
Perfect post. I've been around hunter/trappers for a good part of my life. Although I don't hunt anymore, I haven't since I was a teen, I know the real deal. Dave is it. Embellishing your portfolio/resume is what we are taught to do, it's the norm. Is it right? Not in my opinion. Is it the norm? Absolutely. Look at any, and all, politicians and you should understand what I'm talking about. For this or any site to try and discredit this man for his contribution to HUMANITY "IS" a DISCREDIT to HUMANITY. PERIOD.
Deletedoojoomaster,
DeleteWe are not the Discovery Channel and had nothing to do with pushing for Dave's departure. We just report what's in the news, along with some light commentary. I'm third generation military, and those of us who've served don't like it when people lie about a major qualification like Ranger status. Even with that, I did enjoy Dave on the show, and what I said above was only my guess as to why he was fired.
As far as your justification for dishonesty, I guess we'll just have to disagree on that one. If we all acted like the politicians in Washington, then we'd be in much worse shape.
I'd have to say I like Cody but in a survival situation we get rid of the one who is dressed for any situation but keep the one with no shoes to me if that's a real situation Cody would drag Dave down why keep cody
ReplyDeleteDave had shoes so Cody u would put ur partner at risk so why did they fire Dave and not u cant always be in a desert
ReplyDeleteRachel- thanks for the comments. I definitely respect Cody for trying something different, but I'm definitely with Dave on the issue of wearing shoes, lol.
DeleteSince many of the comments are flaming us (as if we had anything to do with Dave's misfortune), I thought I'd post a link to another forum that has a more balanced discussion of this topic http://survivalbunker.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2656
ReplyDeleteI'm almost to the point where I'm thinking of shutting down the comments thread on this post. If you have something constructive to say, say it. But comments like "we are a discredit to humanity" and to "get off his dik" will no longer be tolerated. I try to maintain a sense of freedom for commenters here, but stuff like this just creates a "flame" board for some of Dave's fans, and contributes nothing to the conversation.
No need to shut the comments down. False pretense with ex mil back ground is a weakness of character, no matter what field you end up in.
ReplyDeleteSo Dave, thanks for your service, but I do hope you have learned your lesson if the accusations are true.
Timanator, thanks for the comment, and yes, I'd prefer to leave comments open as long as people keep it civil.
DeleteCheers, Jason
Regardless of background and whats true and what isnt. If the guy knows what hes doing (and he knows damn well whats he's doing) why should it matter? you dont need to be a 'grizzled vet' to be good at survival. Yeah embelishing the truth is wrong but alot of times things get taken out of context and ran with, chinese whispers anyone? I think people should give the guy a break hes a great host,guy and instructor who certainly knows his stuff more so i think than his co presenter in the show.
ReplyDeleteBummer... My husband and I love this show! I'm more the barefoot hippie and my husband is more the boot wearing gun slinger. I'm the one with military training though so I guess I'm more in the middle than anything.
ReplyDeleteI can honestly say that embellishing his resume had very litle to do with his credibility. It is his accomplishments and resources provided to viewers that has created his following. The exaggeration of his experience and training is nothing more than insecurity and vanity combined. He wanted to puff himself up and paint a better picture.
History is chock full of examples of men and women regretting the exact same practices.
It was wrong of him, but nothing that should have gotten him removed from the show. He will be missed in our family!
Great comment Kimberly, thanks for sharing.
DeleteFalsehoods and qualifications aside, Dual survivor is a tv show meant to be entertainment and I'd wager most people would rather watch Dave than Cody anyway. Cody was annoying and the only reason my husband and I watched was Dave. Will we watch now that he is gone? No.
ReplyDeleteYour husband wants to bone Dave? Weirdos.
DeleteThanks for the comment Jennifer. I thought they complimenting each other, and wished that things worked out so that the show was still airing with its original cast.
ReplyDeleteMykel Hawke? The only person who would be worse would be Bear Grylls... or Mykel Hawke and his wife together. If Mykel Hawke joins Cody, I'll never watch it again. :-(
ReplyDeleteI don't see why so many people seem to think that a person with a military (real or embellished) is more qualified at survival crafts than, say, someone who spent their life in the woods and didn't every shoot anyone.
I was the consultant (survival expert) on two episode of Dual Survival. I like Dave and Cody a lot, but they rely heavily on local experts to put their show together. Having said that, I wouldn't expect them to have complete knowledge of every destination that they visit. My point is that it is a TV show. It is staged. They both know their stuff, but they also get a lot of outside help.
Sorry :(
ReplyDeleteThanks for the update.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment Mike. Lots of TV shows seem to be hurting right
ReplyDeletenow, though I don't believe this is why Canterbury left. There are
several rumors as to why he left, but let's just hope that the show
finds a suitable replacement and continues as it did before.
Cheers, Jason
Sorry Claremomof2 :( Yes, Dave was entertaining with Cody and I'm sorry it all worked out the way it did.
ReplyDeleteJason
Hey Cattledog-
ReplyDeleteThanks for the comment. I think what got Dave into
most trouble was claiming to be a Ranger and using that title to
promote himself and his business. I was checking out Dave's videos as
far back as 2007/2008, and he did push the Ranger thing quite a bit.
Now,
having served in the military and been friends with guys who went
through Ranger school, having Ranger training does not make someone an
instant wilderness survival expert. Rangers are mainly combat
specialists. It's the Special Forces guys who get more of that type of
training. So it never moved me when Dave used "Ranger" to promote
himself.
I do have a problem with him being dishonest about it
though. I don't think he should be crucified for it, but he did offer a
falsified resume to get his paid job on Discovery, which then used that
info to promote the early shows. This put his employer in a very tricky
position with the audience, many of whom are probably veterans.
I
do agree with him and others who say that real survival experts are
self-made, so I feel that he might still have good info to offer.
Obviously, this will be up to the individual to decide if they want to
seek his advice and knowledge.
As for Kerry and "Swiftboating," I
happen to agree, though I don't think it's the case with what's
happened to Dave (based on what I mentioned). I don't think military
veterans of any political persuasion should be attacked for their
documented service, which Kerry originally was (to anyone reading this,
please do not respond with political comments, let's stick with the
subject of Dave please). Dave got in trouble for representing
undocumented military service and titles, so I do understand Discovery's
and Cody Lundin's position with having to maintain the show's
integrity, which included letting Dave go.
Cheers,
Jason
Matthew, please remember that this is just a press release. We have
ReplyDeletenothing to do Dave's fortune or misfortune. The only thing I pointed out
was Dave's misrepresentation of his credentials, which never sits well
with those who've served. Other than that, I have no problem with him.
You might want to reread the update. He never did go through Ranger
ReplyDeletetraining and never served in Central America. He stuck with this story
on the forums until someone posted his military records, revealing that
he had misrepresented his service.
TNjohn, we appreciate your comment, but let's keep the politics out of
ReplyDeleteit. Regarding the lying part, I can't speak for the Discovery Channel,
but misrepresenting a resume for a high profile job is usually a recipe
for getting fired at any place of employment.
Thanks for the comment P226nut. In general, I agree, though I did take a
ReplyDeleteweekend wilderness survival course through the Army which was very
informative and obviously longer than 30 mins in length. I guess it
depends on your MOS, where you're stationed, etc. I would think that
recon guys and Special Forces go through quite a bit. My dad was a
Reconnaissance Commando (RECONDO) in Vietnam and he underwent quite a
bit of wilderness\jungle survival training. Not sure about Rangers
though. Maybe an ex-Ranger can leave a comment detailing the type of
wilderness training they receive?
Rachel- thanks for the comments. I definitely respect Cody for trying
ReplyDeletesomething different, but I'm definitely with Dave on the issue of
wearing shoes, lol.
doojoomaster,
ReplyDeleteWe are not the Discovery Channel and had nothing to
do with pushing for Dave's departure. We just report what's in the
news, along with some light commentary. I'm third generation military,
and those of us who've served don't like it when people lie about a
major qualification like Ranger status. Even with that, I did enjoy Dave
on the show, and what I said above was only my guess as to why he was
fired.
As far as your justification for dishonesty, I guess we'll
just have to disagree on that one. If we all acted like the politicians
in Washington, then we'd be in much worse shape.
Timanator, thanks for the comment, and yes, I'd prefer to leave comments open as long as people keep it civil.
ReplyDeleteCheers, Jason
Great comment Kimberly, thanks for sharing.
ReplyDeleteI happen to agree that military service has no real bearing on becoming a survival expert. It seems very obvious that Dave Canterbury knows his stuff. My guess is that the misrepresentation of his military record became a PR issue for Discovery because of the all active, retired and former military that watch the show.
ReplyDeleteIn reading through the forums, it seems that the people who are upset about this vs the ones who aren't are divided among those who've served and those who haven't. The ex-military people are the ones that are most offended. "Ranger" is a hard won qualification deserving of respect. Anyone that says they used to be a Ranger but really wasn't opens themselves up to mucho scorn from the military/ex-military crowd.
Hullbushcraft, I agree that having a military background isn't required or largely beneficial for becoming a wilderness survival expert (can anyone say "Mors Kochanski?").
ReplyDeleteAs for him misrepresenting his military service, it definitely wasn't "Chinese Whispers." A veteran's site posted his DD214, and Dave even admitted that he was wrong over at Bushcraft USA once he was caught.
As I've said in several response here, I don't think the guy should be crucified over it. It was between him and his employer (Discovery). I'd like still like to see him back on the show. But there's no denying he gave a cock and bull story regarding being a Ranger and serving in the Central American jungles.
Wow, very interesting! Great site by the way! In my humble opinion I think Dave was and is great. Maybe he did lie and that was a huge mistake, however, Dave was all in! What sticks out to me was when Dave purpusely sliced his arm and used gun powder to "stitch" it up and stop the bleeding. That is was what did it for me, Dave was all in and was a great asset that I would trust my life with! Just sad Cody threw him under the bus,.you would think they would have bonded on more than just a few occasions. Regardless I still enjoy Cody and will continue to watch! I also hope Dave gets another chance with another network because he is all in and clearly dedicated to his craft.
DeleteDual Survival stated Joseph Teti, a former force recon marine, Green Beret will be the new military survival co host
ReplyDelete-survbot
I use to work with dave at that factory, it made exhuast systems and is.located in franklin ohio
ReplyDeletethis tv show isnt a manual for life it is entertainment davbes reckless behavcior was entertaning i felt like there was a bound that grew between the two this show has no integrity now that the abbondeend there so called firend when he had been in the service and probably did make his whole life about the outdoors and hunting that show was an original and now its a spin of has been pos im sure he killed a aligator and showed me how to start fires with nothing ckimb down wet ridged or snow coverd mopuntian side he and that little whiney hippie steroid freak were perfect together and they should have in all there wisdom and real life "skills" that they have and dave apperentaly had made up how to do all these things i saw with my own eyes on the fly without the "backround" in with do do these amazing things ive seen him do with that wimp cody they should have sat down wrote an appoligie out revised to the fans that his back round was slightly different everbody that wathced that show wouldve said wow thats crazy but at least he was honest and are favorite sghow is stil onn now it is a falilure in the worx that will not succed good luck dave screw you discovery and screw you cody for not say no i wont do this show without the firend i made and even if you dont care for dave i saw many eposodes were he blossomed a friendship with you that i wouldnt sell for all the gold in the world ps there is no spell checkin and i suck at spelling bye the way all the "credentials" that we ever heard about from the discover channel dicks is that dave was that guy from you tube f u money whores
ReplyDeleteJW- I had to edit out your foul language. Comments are welcome, but keep it clean.
ReplyDeleteIts funny how the fired him for lying about being a ranger but yet he clearly showed he knows a lot of survial skills also love the new choice a special.forces vet can we get off of have vets on these survival shows I'm also a vet served with the 82nd ABN div 3 bct 2-505 pir an I personally dont care if he lied about being a ranger and why is that bc it doesn't effect my life or my military career I will not watch the show now dave is gone I can't stand cody an the no shoes idea I hope the show crashes an burns an dave gets his won survial show again
ReplyDeleteI find it funny that discovery cares. I think cody ludin figured it out and decided not to work with him. Discovery never cared when the man vs wild crew stayed in hotels. I just think Discoveries standards have dropped so far. It is a disgrace. The zombie apocolypse documentary was a joke. They had one about mermaids too. Not to mention Amish Mafia. They need get better shows and get rid of sons of guns and American guns. Just read up on both shows. I used to watch sons of guns, but it has gotten ridiculous. I used to watch dual survivor too. I had no idea about them firing dave, until I saw commercials for the new show. I don't plan on watching the new version. The only true survival show was survivorman. I hope he does some more shows.
ReplyDeleteI lIke survivorman too, but Les is always complaining, I mean deal with it or don't do it!
DeleteI've read some information from people who served with Dave. While he may not have been an actual Ranger, he did train with them and provide srt support when in Korea. I can't remember if the early episodes actually said he was one or just trained. Whatever. I realize this is a cardinal sin to military types. I get it, really. My dad and brother served. I think that Discovery knew and ran with it anyway, and only did something when they got caught. I find Cody's comments just as offensive and petty. I haven't read of any negative comments Dave has made about him, which tells me who the class act really is. Maybe I just missed thrm, but surely it would be all over like Cody's hsve been. I enjoyed Dave and found him tobe muvh more experienced snd believable than a guy who wears socks on s glacier!
ReplyDeleteI will never watch the show again. You should have got rid of the no shoe wearing candyass. Dave was the show! At the beginning of the show is wear he says he is an army ranger, should have just changed that up and roles on.
ReplyDeleteBottom line is Dave is a likable guy and he and Cody played off one another well. The TV show is as much about entertainment as it is about education. Dave was entertaining and seemed a great contrast for Cody. It's hard to believe the new guy will have the same chemistry. It's a bummer. The ship has sailed though and I don't see them re-uniting.
ReplyDeleteAs a veteran,I am not happy about Daves claim. He should have been proud of what he did and earned,he should not have made false claims. As a fan of the show, I am sorry to see him leave but he brought this shame on himself. Cody may be a barefoot hippy with beads and long hair but he can teach a lot and has truly earned his position on the show and in life. Honesty, integrity, and respect will take anyone a long ways. Semper Fi
ReplyDeleteTrying right now to watch the new show and not really down with them over pushing the new guys military background.
ReplyDeleteThis show sucks now that Dave is gone he was the man
ReplyDeleteI'm watching the new episode of Dual Serviver rightnow, and sorry, but Joe ruins it. He doesn't seem to know as much as Dave. Pretty sure Cody misses Dave. I know I do.
ReplyDeleteMy son and i used to love to watch the show, now with this new guy that argues with anything, i and my son will no longer be watchin. Thx DAVE for being the man that your are and you will be missed
ReplyDeleteSorry to see Dave leave despite the embellishment regarding his military career. Don't see the same chemistry with the new guy but time will tell. Good luck Dave on future endeavors.
ReplyDeleteRemember that TV is entertainment period. People get caught up into thinking that everything they see is happening now. We don't see the retakes, multiple angle filming, suggestions from area survival experts, planned arguments etc. I look at it as entertainment and maybe along the way pick up a few tidbits of knowledge. I have been disappointed by many shows after the media releases the info, but still respect the people involved for their past accomplishments....Bear Grylls Included. I agree that Dave Canterbury certainly embellished his resume, but as many comments have stated they still respect his skills. Sometimes good people make bad choices....I can't think of too many that at one point haven't. I watched the new show and found that it was....entertaining which is what I was looking for! I hope the show does well and look forward to future episodes. Jason thanks for having this forum and monitoring the content.
ReplyDeletePoser!
ReplyDeleteCooti is a big headed punk. He always acted like a now it all. I watched the show, and Dave was still better in personality, and skill. Dave always had meat he caught. All Cooti ever did was easy catch bugs, or plants. You don't catch prey by accident. Cody is always trying to get close to men. "Body heat, body heat, spoon with me." Bisexual definately. "We don't need to carry wood." Dave was better than Cooti. Pompous hippy looked for anything to find against Dave continuing. All he knows is desert.
ReplyDeleteWho is that wuss talking to? Honesty in television shows, nobody gives a crap. His own no shoe policy is against survival in most climates. Reality TV is scripted. No one cares if he was really SF. I live in MI where guys are able to survive in the woods from the time they can walk. They could tell Cody wearing shoes is a no brainer. No Special Forces training.
ReplyDeleteWow, Discovery fires Canterbury for lying but then completely fabricates shows like Breaking Amish and Amish Mafia. What a bunch of hypocrites.
ReplyDeleteGreat point!!!
DeleteI wouldn't condemn Dave just yet. Nobody on this board has actually seen his DD-2A which will show most PERMANENT duty assignments and most schools attended /completed. I was never stationed in Japan but technically, i can say i "served " there because my unit deployed there for a month to train with the Jap Defense Forces. U wont see that on any of my records. I've also attended numerous classes and field training events including survival (SERE stuff) that were informal or unofficial but still provided skills. So, my point is that records don't always tell the entire story. Also, discovery channel takes liberties when promoting their shows and cast. The promos say the new guy (Teri) spent a decade in Afghanistan. Really? No, he has had several deployments to that theater over the past decade. Remember folks, reality TV ain't always exactly what it seems but it doesn't necessarily mean people are liars.
ReplyDeleteDave was so dam great to watch with his hunting and was very entertaining with all his trap setting . They should have give the job to Ray Mears . Ray is a die hard bushcraft guy . It was Dave's personality and the way he was as a person that people liked but it is crappy that he stretched the truth because I used to love the way he busted on Cody's hippie way of life and would be like I like meat while Cody's eats some bugs lol . Dave will be missed at least by me !
ReplyDeleteChange is always difficult to accept. We are creatures of habit. Move the garbage can in your kitchen to a new place and see how many times you take your trash to where it was. Everyone on here is right to feel the way they do, but the issue is not yours to deal with. Let it go. If you love the show it says something about you. It says something about all of us. We are part of the same community of people who want to learn to survive if the unthinkable happens. Watch the show to learn. Follow Dave's endevous. Learn...learn...learn...and enjoy.
ReplyDeleteI have never served in the military. I have never communed barefoot in the desert. I think it all comes down to ratings. Discovery was afraid that the ratings would drop. Plain and simple. Ratings means sponsors. Sponsors means money. A lot of money. Its a show. Not Real. Reality tv has become big business. Its all scripted and fake. Sometimes there are things you can learn from reality tv. An even better place to learn is a library. Turn off your televisions people and take the opportunity to learn first hand what it takes to survive. Start by camping. Start your own fire. Catch your own food. Watching someone else do something that is fake is nowhere near as rewarding as doing something that is real yourself.
ReplyDeleteIt is about Rateings. I could careless if a celebrity painted up his resume it's a common practice everywhere. The fact of the matter is that discovery paints itself as a company that is environmentally concerned While giving paid contracts to shows like swamp loggers or some of those gold Miner shows that tear up and pollute the earth. Can anyone say hypicritical. Furthermore I have watched Cody get bent out of shape over a drop of salt water, and cry over humanities waist o fresh water. He himself holds himself up as something he is not. If is really as concerned about nature as he claims he would speak up about his employer filming logging shows and other environmental nasties. Then for him to throw Dave under the bus while he is working for a company that undermines his very life principals. Please I watch Dave's Apology, I'd like to see Cody have that kind of courage and integrity to face up like that. He won't. He wants his paycheck.
ReplyDeleteOk; first, I am a Ranger and a guy lieing about being a part of that, esp if he really is a vet is wrong in so many ways. Second, there are many who believe lieing about your military service should be illegal. Third, not even Special Forces (Green Berets) records are sealed; you don't even need that high of a security clearance to join their ranks and that is all public knowledge. Fourth, most guys claiming "high speed" schools or spec-ops assignments are busted out by guys that really are or were in those units or went to those schools because they are small communities of guys and everybody knows somebody. Lastly, falsifying your resume/record fire financial gain IS a crime; it's called fraud. All of that being said, I think Dave IS a skilled survivalist who gives good advise & has a decent knowledge base. Other commenters are correct, just being a trigger puller & door kicker doesn't teach you that stuff. I'm good at that stuff; I didn't learn ANY of my woodscraft from the Army, I learned it growing up tuning around in the woods.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Clint to me and my husband we always thought that Dave was always taking care of Cody. Cody was always being the "homemaker". If my husband and I had to survive we would want to survive with Dave because he seemed to be the one who actually got stuff done. Cody thinks that this is the great mother earth, we believe God created Earth, Cody is a fool. Bring Dave back with his own show, we will watch it.
ReplyDeleteso who cares if canterbury did or didnt do what he said. he sure the hell knew it on the show. you cant fake that. cody is a whining a*** crybaby and needs to go back to being a little barefoot indian wanna be. dave is the real deal. he sure impressed me with what he knows.
ReplyDeletei chose dave over cody. if i had to choose id say dave showed more experience in the woods. whether he was who he said who cares. he did an excellent job at survival and we will miss him greatly.
ReplyDeletehonestly you could not fake what canterbury did on the show. after watching all the episodes id say he had significant knowledge of survival. thats something you either know or dont know. not something you can fake.
ReplyDeleteI watch new show with Cody and Joe it seems to me they would rather argue about every thing kinda reminds e of the chopper show where all they did was argue and fight will watch a couple more but if thats the new thing I will be done (remember it was entertainment )
ReplyDeleteDo not like the show now!! !!!!! want to see dave back if possible, do not like the new guy!!!!!your channel has dropped so many good show on survival and keep the stupid ones!!! Dave always made more good decisions then any one Bring Dave back!!!!
ReplyDeleteI don't think you get it. I'm not talking about what Dave did or did not do. I am talking about class and discretion. Dave has already been let go from a show that I am sure he enjoyed doing. Is it necessary for Cody to speak badly about him even obliquely? Do you kick a man when he is already down? We enjoyed the show for the camaraderie and the supposed bond between the two that made it a fun show to watch. Dave may have messed up but Cody did not have to go out of his way to _ _ _ on his partners grave. He would have been better served in my eyes if he had just kept his mouth shut and moved on or at the very least expressed a little regret
ReplyDeleteplgjr19, Wouldn't "self-serving twerp" be better defined as the guy who impersonated an Army Airborne Ranger in order to get fame and fortune (Dave), and not the "hippie" guy who's been upfront about his professional background all along (Cody)? It's pretty obvious when you think about it.
ReplyDeleteWatching the first episode right now. This new guy sucks. Cody sucks. Dave seemed much smarter than Cody all the time anyway.
ReplyDeleteI watched the new Dual Survival the other night. It is not the same without Dave.
ReplyDeleteIn a survival situation i would follow Cody Lundeen to the ends of the earth, dave on the other hand seemed a bit of a bumbling clown. I do find cody's lack of footwear a bit odd, but he knows his stuff.
ReplyDeleteYou mean, moron? And where was he proven fake? I've never heard any valid claims against him. Get your facts together, mongoloid. And recently Survivorman has mentioned maybe doing web episodes of some sort, would be awesome to see more.
ReplyDeletebill your a moran....true???......survivorman was a proven fake....get your facts together dude.
ReplyDeleteDave was great. On the other hand, if he lied then he should pay the price. The new guy seems like he'll be good, too.
ReplyDeleteI really liked Dave and felt he brought more to the show than Cody. It always seemed to me that Dave was always taking care of Cody. I'm very disappointed in the show and saw the first episode last night. As usual Cody is fighting with the new guy. I hope they bring Dave back with someone new.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion Dave made the show, and I don't care to much for this knew guy, and never cared much for Cody. Sorry dude, but I'm not watching anymore.
ReplyDeleteAs a certified Red Cross Wilderness and Remote First Aid Instructor, I can tell you that huddling close to survive the cold is a legitimate survival technique, not "bisexuality."
ReplyDelete+1. If I was in a survival situation i'd definatly "spoon". If it ment me being alive I wouldn't think about personalities at the time, it be more like how to keep warm bro.
ReplyDeleteI'm not bothered, Dave should stay for the fact he still is a valuable asset to the show - his woodland survivablility is pretty much unmatched to anyone else who makes themselfs public. Bring dave back, so what if he lied about himself, it just added to the fact of the show and he proved he knew what he was doing when tested and thats all I wanted to see.
ReplyDeleteIt's a shame that Discovery has decided to S*** can so many great survival personalities. At least we can look forward to many many many more quality shows about "glory holes" and "bung holes"....really any type of hole you could shake a stick at...or in. So many different kinds of holes, the diversity is endless.
ReplyDeleteThanks for your service to the country.
ReplyDeleteI realize that emotions are running high, but kids who are fans of the show come here to visit too, so please keep foul language out of your comments or they will be deleted.
ReplyDeleteThe show had chemistry with Dave So what if he was not 100% honest and sucked at starting fire he knows better than to leave without shoes or a lighter 99.9% of the time he has it covered. I have a lighter in my shoes as a result of the show I am never leaving home without shoes or 2 lighters. Discovery I have to ask you this WHO DOES YOUR FACT CHECKING ! Cody ONE MAN HAS BEEN SHOWN ON NEWS YT AND THE LIKE WITHOUT SHOES AND THAT SUCKER IS A FAKE TOO ! PS I would not recommend going barefoot in Az my nephew was bitten by a baby rattler one fang and he suffers tremendously because of it. He was in hospital 3 weeks then got the bill $250K and has loss of density in affected leg. You are FAKE for walking barefooted then acting like Dave damaged the show you were a novelty that wore off fast you might be the real expert but your credibility is severely lacking by not wearing shoes or a necklace that would solve a problem. I know of nobody with an education willing to walk the planet without shoes. I don't need my ass smoked by your false crap to know this show NOW sucks and you might as well do an episode where you get your period because I highly doubt anything else would prove worth watching.
ReplyDeleteI tried watching but it didn't seen they click and both trying to be the alpha male,Really they should have had him come clean and we would still watch.It's not that we watched cause he was a bad ass we watch cause the chemistry was right with them.Like we all never told a whooper before.I watch cause the show gave me info unlike Les whinning about being hungry every 30 sec.Thank you for season 1&2 but not watching season 3
ReplyDeleteThanks for the kind words and Happy New Years!
ReplyDeleteI do not like the new person, what the hell, bring dave back! I am super disappointed, even my 7 year old ask why???? COmplete bull.
ReplyDeleteSorry to hear about this. Dave was entertaining to watch and I liked the banter between him and Cody. Hopefully the new guy and Cody will have the same.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry to the hardcore fans, but the reason I watched the show was Dave, I find Cody kind of a pain. I am going to watch and see if I like the new guy, but dave was cool and I learned a great deal by watching him. It is sad to see him go, I really don't care if he blew a little smoke on a job application, I have been guilty of that myself.
ReplyDeleteToo bad, i really like dave and afterall what actor hasn't embellished their resume. Cody is whiney and self-righteous. At least Dave made him tolerable, especially with some of the risks he took. Like or not Dave and Cody has some chemistry. This new guy is like a punk. Bring back Man Woman Wild.
ReplyDeleteAfter watching the new episodes tonight I already like Joe Teti more then Dave Canterbury. I like Dave a lot. And I like both Dave and Cody. I don't see why you'd watch a show like this without liking the 2 opposite individuals. Otherwise just stick with Bear Grylls and Man vs Wild.
ReplyDeleteJust saw the new guy Joe, highly qualified, but DEFINITELY putting on show for the cameras, exaggerating some 'dangerous' situations, etc. Whatever went down, at least Dave was honest on camera.
ReplyDeleteJust say the new guy Joe, highly qualified, but DEFINITELY putting on show for the cameras, exaggerating some 'dangerous' situations, etc. Whatever went down, at least Dave was honest on camera.
ReplyDeleteJust saw the new guy Joe, highly qualified, but DEFINITELY putting on show for the cameras, exaggerating some 'dangerous' situations, etc. Whatever went down with Dave, at least he was honest on camera, something you don't see too much anymore.
ReplyDeleteJust say the new guy Joe, highly qualified, but DEFINITELY putting on show for the cameras, exaggerating some 'dangerous' situations, etc. Whatever went down with Dave, at least he was honest on camera.
ReplyDeleteWe will miss watching you with Cody, I really loved you two guys together.
ReplyDeleteCredentials aside, discovery should have done their homework. I think many of us our forgetting that it is a tv show, things are planned and their are people their to help. The will to survive is all you need regardless of credentials.
ReplyDeletei don't believe this crap[. there is no way dave knew all he knew and did all those things unless he had training. i think they are all lying.
ReplyDeleteThe reason most civilians seem to think that people who lie about being an Airborne Ranger haven't done anything seriously wrong while most vets look with contempt on such vermin is because most civilians have never had to depend on the guy next to them to act with courage and honor in a dangerous situation when it's so much easier and safer not to. I knew Dave was a phony in the Rocky Mountain Snow Avalance episode. He said parachute cord is a static line that doesn't stretch and you can't bounce up and down on a static line without breaking it. No real Airborne Ranger would have made such an obvious mistake. A static line is made of rolled and sewn webbing and pulls the deployment bag containing the parachute out of the tray (backpack) upon exiting the aircraft. Parachute cord connects the canopy to the risers and is designed to stretch like a rubber band to absorb the shock of canopy deployment. Dave thought static lines and parachute cord were the same thing because he never jumped out of an aircraft in his life. I knew Cody was the real thing when he was unable to get a bowdrill fire going in the Kentucky episode. It would have been so easy to stop the camera, flick a bic and look like he had succeeded when the camera came back on. While it is certainly NOT necessary to be in the military to be a survival expert, it does make for a lively interchange when one expert is military minded and the other has a more philosophical orientation towards nature. I look forward to watching Cody and Joe work together and rub each other the wrong way in the new season.
ReplyDeleteYou're in a rare and tiny minority if you're ex-military and aren't bothered by someone impersonating Special Forces/Ranger MOS's then.
ReplyDeleteYep, Les Stroud is the real deal.
ReplyDeleteNobody has said that Dave's survival videos/skills were fraudulent, but he did commit fraud when he impersonated a US Army Airborne Ranger for many years in order to get people to watch his videos and get on Dual Survival.
ReplyDeleteArmando, thanks the comment. Here's a little more insight into why Dave may have been fired- http://rockymountainbushcraft.blogspot.com/2012/12/video-cody-lundin-talks-about-new-dual.html
ReplyDeleteI wasn't aware that Cody Lundin considered Dave a close friend outside of the show, but even if they were, wouldn't it be the death of a friendship if your friend misrepresented himself to you in a very serious business endeavor? An endeavor based on the very credentials that your friend lied about?
ReplyDeleteAs far as Bear Grylls, yeah, I put him in the same class as Canterbury. And yes, Discovery itself has been very scuzzy lately. I actually think Cody Lundin is the standup guy because he stood up to the Discovery Channel and insisted on keeping it clean.
"Integrity of the show?" The Discovery Channel is getting sued for faking other shows http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/storage-wars-star-files-lawsuit-claiming-show-fake/story?id=17948408#.UNiEbrZN9kc and it's obvious they setup a lot of what was happening in other shows... like when Bear Grylls slept in hotels http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17364327. For Cody to stand up and proclaim that he is so super honest and Dave untrustworthy is the ultimate betrayal and and he's a self inflated low life. So Cody never faked one thing on the show? He never went along with a single thing on the show that was obviously setup? The real dirt bags are Cody for being a tail gunner and not standing up for a friend, and the shows producers for being consummate liars. I hope their scams are taken apart bit by bit by investigative journalists. I like the shows for their entertainment value. It's obvious a lot of parts are faked.
ReplyDeleteNo person who has watched Dave in any of his dozen's of YouTube videos would be able to say that he is a fraud. I have to wonder how much of his history was "enhanced" by producer's and agents. I would rather have Mr. Canterbury at my side in a survival situation than anyone else that I can think of.
ReplyDeleteArradir, nobody has said Dave's survival skills were a fraud. What has proven to be fraudulent is him impersonating a US Army Airborne Ranger that served in Central America.
ReplyDeleteYeah Bill, that whole thing with Bear Grylls is just as bad, I agree.
ReplyDeletewow, first time i'm hearing of this. dave was a good fit on the show. lying is wrong but he shouldn't of been fired for it. he obviously was doing something right, him and cody are still alive.
ReplyDeleteWhether or not Dave misrepresented himself' the show was great to watch and he knew his business. What surprised me is the way that self serving twerp Cody threw Dave right under the bus. I thought they were friends but with a friend like Cody, who needs enemies. We will not be watching this one way street Cody any longer
ReplyDeleteYou won't even give it a chance to see if the new guy (who is actually qualified) might be just as good as Dave?
ReplyDeleteAnd the show's meant to be entertaining, but also informative, and if the guy giving out the info isn't qualified to give it, the decision makes perfect sense.
Yours seems slightly foolish : /
i really like the show and dave and all i can really say is that the skills he taught were real and i wonder if cody (who i really like as well ) can count on the new guy to keep me watchin
ReplyDeleteI am a big fan of Dual Survival.It's too bad that Dave is no longer a part of it. The chemistry between them two was SO right. (Unfortunatly I'm probably not going to watch the show cause in my eyes Dave was a hell of alot more "Survival smart" then Cody) Exept for in the desert! Good luck to both of them though.
ReplyDeleteBalls! If the fans made a petition would Dave be allowed to stay???
ReplyDeleteMight be worth a shot, who knows?
ReplyDeleteI will no longer be watching this show. What made this show was the way they both reacted to each other and their different views.
ReplyDeleteThanks Christopher!
ReplyDeleteDave actually admitted to fudging his bio on the Bushcraft USA forums after he was confronted with the evidence, so there's no question that he was dishonest about his service record.
ReplyDeleteI agree that Discovery has been rather slimy in recent years. I get the impression that Cody was offended by working with someone who impersonated a Ranger and asked for a new partner. I can't confirm this but it's my impression of what happened.
ReplyDeletesurvbot, thanks for letting us know!
ReplyDeleteAs a former combat vet and lifelong hunter, I see nothing unreasonable in a former soldier taking a job in a factory. When a person leaves the military, they still have to pay the bills...right?
ReplyDeleteI have watched the show and can honestly say I would MUCH rather be in the woods with Dave than with Cody.
I know many hunters that never even served in the military and could probably out-shoot, out-track, and outperform most guys with the "right" military background.
I would remind everyone that in two past shooting competition shows featuring civilians and former Delta force and other special forces members....it was a civilian "SWAT" member that won the first show...and a civilian hunter that won the 2nd.....did you say that Dave had been a "SWAT" member and is a hunter....interesting.
I'll be waiting for some smart producer to re-introduce Dave Canterbury in a new show. Then I'll tune in.
Kerry,
ReplyDeleteI have been an avid hunter since my Dad took me at the age of 9. I have hunted on the east coast, in the Appalachians, in the Rockies, and in Canada.
I watched the shows with Dave and can say I never saw him give any advice that I found "wrong". If you know that he gave out improper information...by all means point out that incident and episode for the rest of us.
I also found your negative "foolish" comment, to Jennifer, as childish.
The show was fine and "survived" after Special Forces member Mykel Hawke's show was cancelled.
So much for your thoughts on the subject.
I served in the Army during Desert Storm and it is my opinion that what Dave did is pretty common unfortunately, Dave is a poser. He was fired and I think this whole incident should provide people with all they need to decide whether to continue to follow his "teachings". Knowing full well the sacrifices of those who actually do the things he claimed falsly to have done, the man lacks honor and was willing to be a poser for profit. Glad he's off tv.
ReplyDeleteRaymond, I'm thinking you meant to say Bear Grylls, since Survivorman Les Stroud has never been accused of fraud (we would know if he did).
ReplyDeleteFor anyone who is in tune with the show, take what you learn from it and go out in your back yard and try it. They're just entertaining you with what if scenarios. I know when I applied for a job at Johns Hopkins Hospital as the lead brain surgeon. I was hired immediately I walked into the interview with a stethoscope and a white jacket, And blood on my hands. They assumed I knew what I was doing. So I milked it for two years until I had a malpractice suit against me for negligible actions during an operation. Bottom line is we as Americans will except anything to appease our yearn for knowledge. So when you get your own survival show, I hope your qualified, whTever that means. p.s. I'm not really a doctor, if your confused.
ReplyDeleteFor anyone who enjoys the show I would suggest you go out into the woods and try some of the things you've learned from the show. Bottom line is, it doesn't matter if they are certified by the Govt. Or by weird naked Indian dude from waynes world. It's a show created by Americans for Americans. His military records could say he was special kitchen forces, but honestly who cares. Most people who are so judgmental are other military/woodsman/survivalist, sorry if I left you out hippy hikers.lol. In my honest opinion, if we were stuck out in the middle of nowhere and I needed someone to explain how to survive, I would probably humor the situation and try to survive. But then again he was an MP!
ReplyDeletethat new dual survivor is like watching two bi polar women in full blown menopause and still bleeding on the rag with no tampons out in the wilderness. its the biggest joke ive ever seen and i will be sure to watch something else besides that fking joke show. put dave back on or im finished!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletethat new guy is the biggest fake ive ever seen. he spends more time whining like a damn 2 yr old. what a worthless ahole. no wonder they canned his ass from the military. they probably fired him and hired dave to take his place!
ReplyDeleteDave and cody made the show. I watched a little of the new episode, just not the same without dave. I will no longer be watching the show. I understand dave was dis honest but he new his stuff and I could care less if the the other person had special forses back ground. Good luck to u dave in whatever u choose to do
ReplyDeletethat cody is a fairy ass faggot who,d rather tiptoe through the cowshit. if he is a survivalist i will eat my own crap. hes no more qualified at that as i am at flying the damn space shuttle as flash gordon!!!!!
ReplyDeleteAnonymous wrote: "Geez you guys ax Dave because he enhanched his background? Get real this is TV. I no longer watch the show cause Cody new partner is so irrating. Yuck
ReplyDeletePut Dave back on!!!!!"
We definitely did not ax Dave, and in fact, have been fans of Dave's videos going back to at least 2008. We simply reported the story as was given by Wikipedia and the Bushcraft USA forum when it was first brought to light. We have absolutely no connection with the Discovery Channel or Bushcraft USA forums, and Dave was asked to leave the show before we ever reported this.
I did take a stance on the part about Dave's impersonation of an Army Airborne Ranger who served in Central America, but I also called for his forgiveness in this post's comment section months ago. I am third generation military, and me, my father, and grandfather all served during war time, and are very proud to have done so, which is where my position on Dave's false Ranger status came from.
I believe the time has come for everyone to move on, because we can't change the past, only the future, and I wish Dave well in all his future endeavors. Thanks again to everyone for their passionate comments, and I hope you'll keep coming back to our site to check out our reviews and bushcraft-related articles well into the future.
Sincerely,
Jason
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Leah
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On a smaller scale look at robert irvine and food network. He lied about cooking for the queen of england so they fired him. They tried someone else and realized irvine was the best for the dinner/restaurant impossible so they brought him back. Discovery channel lost me with their "reality tv". Such a sad state these days with so much garbage on tv. However it is just tv and reality programming is usally the farthest thing from reality. Common sense tells us so. With that being said...i watch tv to be entertained. Dave was entertaining while cody is not. People really watch the ahow to learn how to survive? Get real. My dad was first force recon and a marine sniper in nam, but his records say he was stationed at 29 palms as an instructor. While lying is obviously not good and a complete disrespect to the brave men and women who protect our country, i put the blame soley on the discovery channel. Background checks for tv are intense (why i didnt make hells kitchen call back) and i find it hard to believe they werent aware of his bs before they gave him the show. Im still a big fan of dave and hope he learned his lesson and wish him the best.
DeleteAs has been said, Cody did not give any wrong information and had alot of knowledge for surviving in the wilderness. I think Dave complimented Cody and vice versa. It was nice to have the two very different personalities. Sorry to see Dave leave the show.
ReplyDeleteShow wouldn't be much different skill wise between Dave and Joe. But the "bitching" Cody and Joe do, is gonna kill the show. May work for OCC, but not in the woods!
ReplyDeleteits jus 2bad gonna miss ur handsome face
ReplyDeleteBest of luck Dave in all your endeavours. You provided a great deal of entertainment and counter point on my favorite show. I hope you can find the forgiveness you need in yourself. Jesus forgave you as soon as you did what you did. Maybe find a way to redress the issue with increasing your support for Veterans. Best of luck to Dave. God Bless.
ReplyDeleteThe new guy is great. I still believe that Dave was also a great survivalist as well. Regardless of his false backround I still learned a lot from him. he and Cody seemed to make a great team, but its Hollywood and things always change to keep us fans entertained.
ReplyDeleteMan that is some straight up network bull.dave has always been the star and leader f the dual.what was they thinking??
ReplyDeleteAs an advid follower of Dave on youtube. I will say a couple if things. He made a mistake. But he is still full of moral chacter. For the simple reason he is still successful in what he does. So there was really no need for him to address the situation. Because if these boards prove nothing. They prove that he still has a lot of fans and supporters.... but he still did. And it can be seen on YouTube on his Chanel wilderness outfitters. A few words on DS. I believe is what its titled. 2nd. Its oblivious. DC made a mistake by letting him go. But sadly I don't think he would ever go back. Hes where he wants to be. Teaching what he feels everyone should know.... by the way on his channels you can learn just abt anything from flint knapping to black smithing. And he shows it from the "common man " perspective ...showing that on a small budget that u can still do these things... that u don't need money or expensive gadgets to survive..... he still has classes all through the year. That u can attend. And they are reasonably priced. Cody on the other hand although I believe he knows his stuff. And support his respect mother earth stance. Your gonna pay to learn from him. Dave on the other hand post all that he teaches on YouTube.... just food for thought... on another note on DS. I don't personally think Joe's resume is acurate either. I don't think he's old enough and can't find his birth date anywhere.... I am a marine veteran. Nothing fancy just an infantryman. But I know u don't gointo recon out of bootcamp it takes some time in service. And another thing I found peculiar and I'm sure it was produced that way....is that in the episode prior to their first adventure. Why would a man that was involved in things that was so secret that the producers have to be blindfolded to come to his house " for his protection and theirs" want to go on a TV show and talk so much abt how he became qualified?!?!
ReplyDeleteJust wondering how long it takes for these comments to get approved and posted?
ReplyDeleteNew Show SUCKS ASS, AND SO DOES THE WHINER RATTING ON DAVE ,TODD I BELIEVE HIS NAME IS ,
ReplyDeleteDisqus comments usually post right away, though some of the Google comments have taken a day or two to sync.
ReplyDeleteCody you are a worthless douchebag........Dave was the only reason I watched the show.....I won't watch anymore....I put up with you because I had to....you are nothing
ReplyDeletebring dave back
ReplyDeletebring dave canterbury back . pay him more money . shit the man eat shit lots of people never seen the shit they eat and do. lets see the big ass tv. pricks
ReplyDeletePeople, let's try and keep it civil. The level of foul language and negativity is getting totally out of hand. We're keeping these comments open so that people have a means to express themselves, but this is still a blog about bushcrafting, not a public hate forum. If it doesn't tone down we will be forced to shut down the comments section.
ReplyDeleteThank you,
RMB
Thats Garbage who cares if he wasnt an Army Ranger he was great on the show! Welp no need to watch this season
ReplyDeleteI have to admit that I’m very disappointed to hear about Dave’s embellishments of his military record, I also understand that in order to survive you need a paycheck and I myself have made small embellishments to applications to get a job. It’s still survival a technique, even thou the shame one receives if the lie is discovered often effects others outside your circle. I have both seasons on DVD and witnessed many occasions that Dave Canterbury has more than enough knowledge to survive in the wild and even in light of all that has transpired, I would still trust and put my life in his hands in survival situations. How many people would intentionally self inflict a wound in order to show emergency cauterization techniques in the wild, you are either crazy or very dedicated in teaching the art of self reliance and survival. Dave, I forgive you and wish you the very best, you will SURVIVE this ordeal and learn form it.
ReplyDeleteNo matter what the facts. Dave & Cody made a special team and it is already evident that the new version is missing that. The network will figure it out as ratings drop. Bring back the original. soon!!!
ReplyDeleteI heard Cody spooned him in a hollow log in the middle of the night and wouldn't quit rubbing his crusty feet on him.
ReplyDeleteWhat he was trained for, and listed MOS doesn't really disprove anything he said. After the fact, the new guy is a complete fail.
ReplyDeletedave was the shit and they made a great team the new guy is a know it all and tries way too hard my family and i dont watch anymore
ReplyDeleteyes sir absolutely
ReplyDeleteDave & Cody they went together like peanut butter and jelly,loved to watch them. NOW the show is like oil & water, the new guy is best hunting towel heads...
ReplyDeleteI cant stomach the show with the new guy. You can't replicate the chemistry between cody and dave. Since I dont plan on using anything I see on TV to survive I would love to see Dave comeback to the show. But for now Discovery has lost a viewer.
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